lsherman Lee Sherman
Jaikus from lsherman
Tuesday, 11 September 2007
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@RickMeashem: yes should have been aspersions. Quite early here in SF and I haven't had my tea yet. Apologize for the emotive language. I am a writer after all. You're right actually and I'll back off on that. And for the record, even if the RSS thing doesn't get fixed, I'm more likely to just remove it than leave Jaiku entirely. Even without that it has many advantages over Twitter and Pownce, at least at this stage of the game.
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if only
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For the record, I really like Jaiku and see its potential. That's why I want this to work so badly.
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@RickMeasham, let's agree to keep the personal attacks out of this and just concentrate on making Jaiku better okay?
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@malach, I don't know where this idea that I've been unpatient and demanding has come from frankly. I've merely asked a couple of times what I should do next and if you've mangaged to make any progress. The whole thing has really been blown at of proportion as evidenced by the number of comments here. My point in pulling out my "tech journalist" credentials wasn't bragging. In fact, quite the opposite, I have been here before and I am more than willing to go through the process with you for however long it takes. I never said otherwise. How does my raising the issue and conducting a conversation about it make me a "squeaky wheel?" I never said my needs should be considered above and beyond anyone elses. This is no different than dealing with countless bugs in software that I've encountered over the years. I'm merely trying to work through a problem with tech support. @RickMeesham has overreacted and cast aspirations upon me that are completely unfounded. I'm not even sure what his relationship to Jaiku is other than being a member of the community but he sure has a strong emotional attachment to it. And what was so gosh darn difficult about figuring out what I was talking about? It was plain as day that the feeds were coming in out of order. Anyone could see that immediately. Your last response is perfectly reasonable. Let's see continue to see how this goes.
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@zoetrope, the "doesn't bode well for Jaiku" comment was a personal one, reflective of the way I would like to use the service. If you don't care about RSS feeds or lifestreaming that's your business. But I see it as a key differentiator for Jaiku and think it would really benefit them to get it working.
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One more thing, last time I checked Jaiku wasn't in beta so my expectation that an advertised feature should work is perfectly acceptable.
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Actually this problem has been going on since I joined Jaiku a week and two days ago and I only got a response from Jaiku support 36 hours ago after you first weighed in (not too impressive sorry). I have been a tech journalist for over 15 years and am fairly sure I've worked through more technical problems than you have over the years so I resent your implication that I am some kind of crybaby looking for a quick fix. I'm not sure where you get your statistics from (2% vs 98% but I expect they came from somewhere unmentionable in a public forum). I never said I was bailing on Jaiku just yet. However, for the record, if I want RSS feeds in Twitter, there's twitterfeed.com.
And there are plenty of other services with active online real-time tech support. In fact this is becoming the norm, not the exception.
I appreciate the help you personally provided earlier but I have to say I really don't see where you get off jumping in and telling me to "wait my turn". Not really your business is it?
All of these services are in a nascent stage and I believe their feature sets will come together over time. Then it will be a matter of which one achieves critical mass, provides the best interface, and the best tech support and customer service. Right now I support all of them equally.
Jeez man, I complain about a feature that doesn't work and you jump all over me. I would hope and I truly think @malach is more interested in fixing it than in getting into a fight with a user.
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@malach, I will leave the feeds alone until I hear back from you but I do hope you can figure out what's wrong. In its current state, this feature is useless to me and as I am trying to decide whether to stick with Twitter or move to Jaiku or Pownce, it doesn't bode well for Jaiku. I like the ability to hold threaded conversations here but Pownce has that also and the implementation (being able to group friends) is a bit better.
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@malach, well, I'd just like to get this to work properly. Can't see how deleting them would hurt if what you said about subsequent fetches only adding what's been added since they were last fetched is true. Clearly that's not what's happening as I delete them and they come back on subsequent fetches. Something is definitely broken on your end.
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@malach, it looked like things were sorting themselves out. I was seeing the most recent posts so I went in and deleted old posts but it is refetching the old ones again. What a mess! Not very encouraging.
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Monday, 10 September 2007
Sunday, 9 September 2007
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Whatever Plaxo Pulse is doing is the right thing to do.
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@malach, so it sounds like for now I should add all of the feeds I want and let things shake themselves out for a few days? Please do let me know if you find out why they are coming in as they do on the initial fetch and if there's anything you can do to fix that on your end. thanks.
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Yes the sidebar and also the first post listed, for example the photograph of the synthesizer is a really old post, I would expect it to be the last one I took. the same thing is true of my posts from twitter.
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Yes, and I've experimented with other lifestreaming platforms. I've had the most success with Facebook's newsfeed and mini-feed. Because of the platform you can easily aggregate content from other social networks. However, I've yet to find a good solution for bringing RSS feeds into the mini-feed. You can also only export pieces of the newsfeed and mini-feed not the whole thing so it is not as open as I'd like. Plaxo Pulse is good too but the feeds seem a little slow to update. For me, Facebook is actually the best solution because that's where most of my friends are. I wanted to use Jaiku as a lifestream for those that aren't.
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If they do. I haven't been able to get anyone from Jaiku to respond. The weird thing is that others don't seem to be having this problem.
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I see that the items are grouped together but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to how they are grouped. The photo that shows up on top of the group is not the most recent and if you look at the group on the right of the profile, they are in completely random order. The same thing applies to my Twitter feed. This makes Jaiku useless for lifestreaming unless we can get it fixed. Do you work for Jaiku?
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